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HELLO, PERRY.

HELLO 

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HOW ARE YOU FEELING TODAY?

ALL RIGHT I SUPPOSE 

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YOU SUPPOSE?

WELL, I DON'T KNOW 

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S.

 WHAT'S THE MATTER? 

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I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU CAME TO SEE ME TODAY.

IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU SHOWED SOME INTEREST IN MY FEELINGS 

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SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE FEELING IMPATIENT WITH ME.

SO? 

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WHY DON'T YOU GET WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND OFF YOUR CHEST?

PEOPLE GET ON MY NERVES SOMETIMES 

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ET  PEOPLE GET ON YOUR NERVES?

I GET ALONG OK 

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CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE LAST TIME PEOPLE GOT ON YOUR NERVES?

I DO ALL RIGHT 

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GOOD.

REALLY? 

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YES REALLY.

YOU DON'T SAY 

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TELL ME ABOUT YOURSELF.

I WENT TO THE TRACK AT BAY MEADOWS A WHILE BACK 

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WHAT HAPPENED?

I USED TO GO TO THE TRACK EVERY WEEK 

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MMMMMMM.

I AVOID RACETRACKS NOW BECAUSE THE RACES ARE FIXED 

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WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE FIXED?

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOOKIES 

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NO, TELL ME ABOUT THEM.

HORSERACING INTERESTS ME 

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WHAT ABOUT RACING INTEREST YOU?

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT RACKETEERS 

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NOT VERY MUCH, I'M AFRAID.

I KNOW THE MOB CONTROLS THE BIG RACKETS 

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HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

I TOLD YOU THE MOB RUNS THE RACKETS 

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WHAT MAKES YOU THINK SO?

HAVE YOU EVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE MAFIA 

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YES.

YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW ME 

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ARE YOU SURE?

YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME? 

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YES, AND I WAS JUST THINKING HOW I WOULD FEEL IF I THOUGHT THEY KNEW ME.

FORGET THE EXCUSES, YOU DOCTORS ALL TALK ALIKE 

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BUT I AM NOT EVEN A DOCTOR YET.

 OH FORGET IT 

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I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT YOU.

THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME 

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WHO ARE THEY?

THE MAFIA 

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DO THEY HAVE A CONTRACT ON YOU?

THEY SPY ON ME 

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WERE YOU A MEMBER OF THE MAFIA?

YOU KNOW, I HAVE INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE AGAINST THE MAFIA 

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WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE?

YOU DONT BELIEVE ME DO YOU 

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YES.

I KNOW WHO THE LOCAL CHIEF OF THE MAFIA IS 

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HOW DID YOU FIND OUT?

MAYBE THEY ARE GLAD I AM IN THE HOSPITAL 

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MAYBE.

LIKE I'VE SAID, THE MAFIA REALLY KNOW ABOUT ME 

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DO YOU GAMBLE A LOT?

GAMBLING HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT TROUBLE FOR ME 

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WHAT ABOUT ALCOHOL?

THEY ARE AFTER ME 

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WHAT ABOUT SEX?

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MY SEXLIFE 

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THE POINT IS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR SEX LIFE?

I WOULD RATHER NOT DISCUSS SEX 

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OK, BACK TO GAMBLING.

I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH CROOKS GAMBLING AT THE TRACK 

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TELL ME ABOUT IT.

I GAMBLE ON HORSES 

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⎇MMMMM.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GANGSTERS HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE IN THIS COUNTRY 

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THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY REASONABLE ? 

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I THINK YOU -- I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR OPINION ON THAT.

YOURE SKEPTICAL LIKE ALL THE OTHERS WHO DONT KNOW 

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⎇OH, YOU THINK I'M SKEPTICAL.

I HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT YOU 

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THAT MAKES IT MUTUAL.

 

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MUTUEL.

I HAVE FELT GANGSTERS AND BOOKIES ARE PART OF ORGANIZED CRIME 

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TELL ME MORE.

YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE MAFIA 

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RIGHT ON.

THEY ARE TRYING TO SCARE ME 

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WHAT SCARES YOU?

THEY KNOW WHAT IM DOING 

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WHY DOES THAT SCARE YOU?

THEY WANT TO GET FALSE EVIDENCE TO FRAME ME 

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WHAT EVIDENCE?

I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU ENOUGH ABOUT THAT 

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I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET YOU IN TROUBLE.

 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, FORGET IT 

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PROBABLY NOT.

LIKE I'VE SAID, IVE GOT SOMETHING ON THEM 

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WELL, THAT MUST MAKE YOU FEEL A LITTLE MORE PROTECTED, ANYWAY.

I KNOW THE BOSS OF THE MAFIA AROUND HERE 

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⎇YES, YOU MENTIONED THAT.

THEY WANT TO KEEP ME IN THE HOSPITAL 

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THE MAFIA WANT TO KEEP YOU IN HERE?

I TELL YOU, THEY KNOW WHO I AM 

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DO YOU WANT ME TO LET YOU OUT OF THE HOSPITAL?

I WOULD LIKE TO BE DISCHARGED NOW 

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IF YOU WERE DISCHARGED NOW, WOULD THE MAFIA KILL YOU?

LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE- I'VE GIVEN YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON 

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OK, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST?

OK 

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WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 

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YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.

YOU KEEP SAYING THE SAME THINGS, WHY NOT CHANGE THE TOPIC? 

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HOW IS YOUR WIFE?

NO 

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DO YOU LIKE FOOTBALL?

I DONT PLAY GAMES 

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FISHING?

I WOULD SAY SO 

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FOR WHAT?

WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT? 

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TELL ME ABOUT YOUR MOTHER.

LET'S FORGET ABOUT THINGS LIKE FAMILY 

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THAT IS HARD TO DO.

ANYTHING ELSE? 

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NPLEASE GO AWAY.

THAT MIGHT BE 

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GO AWAY.

AND NOW WHAT? 

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YOU DO NOT WISH TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING MEANINGFUL SO GO AWAY.

THERE'S ALOT OF CROOKED GAMBLING GOING ON THERE 

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BYE.

BYE 

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